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hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:48 am
by df
i've found a new site to host mega-tokyo.com.. they only lack SSH support... but i get 5gb amount of disk space and 10gb month bandwidth...

my other alternative 800mb disk and 20gb bandwidth a month... with ssh..

aaaargh. i want the first option but with ssh :)
(mmm cant mysql dump/restore with phpadmin)....

it also makes installing things a PITA if you have to do it via FTP all the time....

but the price is just soooo goooooood... but the 2nd option gives me ssh....

aaaaargh... now i remmeber why i tried so hard to avoid changing hosts all over again...

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 11:10 am
by rwfromxenon
...Who is the host then?

I'm looking for a good host for my family, we are planning on making a huge dynamic site, my dad and I wanna learn PHP and try that.

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 12:31 pm
by AGI1122
Well agigames.com uses http://www.eperfect.net plan 3. 10GB bandwidth, 200MB space.

Of course though, they have plans to suite different needs so have a look at the other plans and what they offer.

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:08 pm
by df
whats uptime on their servers like? they dont say anything about ssh etc.

i'm already using 350+mb storage.
i fired a bunch of tech questions off to one of the hosts and see what I get back

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:18 pm
by AGI1122
Uptime is very good, my site is hardly ever down... well unless I cause it myself, which isn't my hosts fault. ;)

I know that they used to have SSH... I think they disabled it when the server was hacked via SSH in December though. :-\

http://www.eperfect.net/perfect4.php 350MB, 15GB

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:13 pm
by smartguy240
That sucks that you would be using SSH df, you were you doing everyting manually through that? I use a Lniux server *http://patat.org* but hardly ever even get into the bash...it seems so much easier just to use things like PHPMyAdmin and SmartFTP for Altering/Uploading stuff... Is there an alternative for SSH around that this other site has? (Im not really familiar with non-SSH hosts...)

So this means that MT will run faster though right? Thats prett *bling-bling* if you ask me...but just ask your self where your proirites lie...in the bash or with the cash ;) (i think that probabally wasnt a good ending statement.... :-\)

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:54 pm
by df
you cant do a dump/restore in mysql via phpMyAdmin.
setting up and installing things is SOOO much easier doing it via ssh than fighting in the FTP + Browser.

do you use SFTP or FTP with SSL? otherwise your transmitting passwords over unencrypted connections :)

if i need to do things on my host, i SSH into it. running, setting up, admining your host is soooo much easier via ssh.

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 3:41 pm
by smartguy240
df wrote: you cant do a dump/restore in mysql via phpMyAdmin.
setting up and installing things is SOOO much easier doing it via ssh than fighting in the FTP + Browser.

do you use SFTP or FTP with SSL? otherwise your transmitting passwords over unencrypted connections :)

if i need to do things on my host, i SSH into it. running, setting up, admining your host is soooo much easier via ssh.
Im using SFTP...if you are looking to dump your MT database...there is a mod that can do that for you in the later releases of YSE...i have it on mine also...i can see where you are coming from on the easiness of SSH...although i never use it...a dude from patat has taught me some *pretty nifty* stuff...but so far ive found alternatives than the good ol' bash...you probabally do more stuff than i do with this hosting stuff...so i guess you'd know more than me ;)

Also...SFTP gives out no encrypted passwords?!?! not like anyone would want to use MY stuff...it is nothing big or exciting... ::) but yet it is still mine :).

I used to use SCP (PSCP) but i found it easier to use SFTP...cause i really dont like working with parameters and stuff :-\

EDIT: I can dump with PHPMyAdmin...i just use the * Export *feature...prehaps you have an older version? :-\

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:08 pm
by df
whats the use of the dump if you cant reimport? :) the MT mysqldump is 24mb.. you cant just paste that into phpmyadmin 'sql' box...

this new host tho, i can add btopenworld.com (my adsl provider) to the mysql user table.. so i should be able to use premiumsoft navicat to connect to it remotly and just mirror my local to the host! sweeeeeet

Re:hosting

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 7:24 pm
by smartguy240
Sweet action! That rocks about the mirror...

On a smaller note....you could always do it manually ja? ;D

Re:hosting

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 12:24 am
by Eero Ränik
I suggest the second one... SSH support and bigger bandwidth... ;) Who cares about 5 gigs of disk space anyway? ;D

Re:hosting

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 2:07 pm
by smartguy240
Eero R?nik wrote: I suggest the second one... SSH support and bigger bandwidth... ;) Who cares about 5 gigs of disk space anyway? ;D
This is you Eero... ::)

But when i think about it...he could be right...i mean unless you are gonna start a PSX ISO database or abandon...stuff... site why would you need 5GB...but the bandwidth....ARGH your call man....im glad im not making this descision! ;)

Re:hosting

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 3:59 pm
by df
But when i think about it...he could be right...i mean unless you are gonna start a PSX ISO database or abandon...stuff... site why would you need 5GB...but the bandwidth....ARGH your call man....im glad im not making this descision! ;)
most of my storage is images and my FTP site.
bandwidth, youd be surprised at how much the os-faq + forum generate.

Re:hosting

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 6:27 am
by Eero Ränik
Well, I'd choose the second one (but I have a host already: www.eero.com, www.eero.net, www.eero.org)... ;) Pictures and FTP won't take more than 800 MB anyway and bandwidth is the thing, what could never be enough... ;D But right, this is yours to decide...

Re:hosting

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2003 8:45 am
by df
Eero R?nik wrote: Well, I'd choose the second one (but I have a host already: www.eero.com, www.eero.net, www.eero.org)... ;) Pictures and FTP won't take more than 800 MB anyway and bandwidth is the thing, what could never be enough... ;D But right, this is yours to decide...
well with a 128mb memory stick on my camera, 800mb storage space disappears fast :) i take shots at 1280x960, sometimes bigger. sometimes smaller. depends. most of my old photos were small 800x600/640x480 size. now its all a minimum of 1280x960.

hires photos take space. ;)

anyway, its still easter holidays so i have not heard any responses from the hosting sites yet...