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Intel Manuals

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:21 am
by melgmry0101b
Hi everyone,

I decided to start this topic to make the new people here in OSDEV know how to refer to Intel Manuals ,when should them refer to them and how to search in them? to avoid n00b questions that their answers are "Refer to Intel Manuals" or "Let me google it for you".

I refer to Intel Manuals when the thing that I will do touches the OP-CODES and the CPU archs , etc... and I search in it by :
1-In the Intel Manuals' website there is a quick description for each volume that helps in finding the wanted info.
2-When I download the Manual I search in the index about the wanted topic.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ ... nuals.html

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:26 pm
by Jezze
The link doesnt work.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:49 pm
by Darwin
Jezze wrote:The link doesnt work.
Yes, it should end with html, not htm.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:17 pm
by melgmry0101b
smcerm wrote:
Jezze wrote:The link doesnt work.
Yes, it should end with html, not htm.
oops :oops: , sorry , I fixed it :)

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:02 am
by Solar
The Intel Manuals are linked quite prominently in several places of the OSDev Wiki. If you feel links are missing in crucial places, feel free to add them.

A forum thread is an inferior way of persisting information, because it doesn't. Threads quickly drop out of sight.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:42 am
by Chandra
Solar wrote:Threads quickly drop out of sight.
Unless they are sticky. I'm looking forward to a Sticky thread that links to all valuable documents scattered over the web, not just the Intel Manuals. It is definitely a convenient approach in favor of those who want everything on their desk.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:07 am
by Combuster

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:08 am
by Solar
Chandra wrote:I'm looking forward to a Sticky thread that links to all valuable documents scattered over the web, not just the Intel Manuals.
That'd be Resources.

Again, a thread isn't a good way to collect information. Only the original poster can edit the first post, and once followups go beyond one page, nobody reads the whole shebang anyway. That's what the Wiki is for.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:13 am
by Chandra
Solar wrote:That'd be Resources.
Great! I missed that myself. Is that page updated quite often?

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:19 am
by Solar
Haven't you worked with a Wiki before?

Click the "history" tab at the top of the page. That shows you past edits of the page.

Basically, the Wiki is updated by all of us. Go ahead and add, edit, and restructure as you see fit. If in doubt, use the discussion pages (or the "About the Wiki" subforum here).

The Wiki could do with some lovin' attention.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:22 am
by Chandra
Solar wrote:Haven't you worked with a Wiki before?
You do know what update is, don't you? I'm pretty sure you can differentiate between edits and updates. Just modifying the page and adding some stuffs doesn't make resonable update. Updating involves gathering newly released information and organizing them. I'm just wondering how much of that is done on the Resources page.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:56 am
by Solar
Chandra wrote:Updating involves gathering newly released information and organizing them. I'm just wondering how much of that is done on the Resources page.
As in, someone has it on his schedule to do it and gets fired by the project manager if he doesn't deliver?

Doesn't work that way.

If you feel like such an update would be needed, feel free to do it. If you feel like doing this at regular intervalls, you will be much applauded.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:09 am
by Chandra
Solar wrote:As in, someone has it on his schedule to do it and gets fired by the project manager if he doesn't deliver?
Are you annoyed? I didn't say any thing like "You go and update the wiki for me while I shall sit and watch the TV". I proposed that we should organize the resources. I'm quite confused how you're perceiving this discussion. I asked "Is the Wiki Updated?" and you responded "Do you know how to use Wiki?", which is completely irrelevant and improper. Updates has nothing to do with edits.
Solar wrote:If you feel like such an update would be needed, feel free to do it. If you feel like doing this at regular intervalls, you will be much applauded.
I will, when I manage to save some time from the work schedule. The only problem is that I don't have wide understanding of the existing architectures which makes it almost impossible to link to the respective documentations. Moreover, the Resources page focuses more on links to OSDEV tutorials which is not exactly what I(precisely) wanted. Will a new specific page on "Hardware Resources" be better?

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:42 pm
by DavidCooper
Combuster wrote:Resources
That's the first time I've ever seen this page - like many things on the Wiki, I only find them after someone posts a link to them in a thread because there's no indication that they exist if you start at the main page. The main page contains a short section labelled "Resources" which doesn't include a link to the "Resources" page, so it isn't likely that many people would ever think of doing a search for a "Resources" page.

Re: Intel Manuals

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:08 pm
by AJ
Hi,

The Resources heading has a "more..." link, taking you to the resources category. It's accessible from there. Each heading on the main page only contains a summary of the pages in that section.

Cheers,
Adam