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A thick newbe... ;o)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:53 pm
by Bazza
Hi all...

I know you guys take no prisoners but I am very new here. (Treat me gently... ;o)

I have "visited" your WIKI many times so I though I`d ask a stupid question to see what flak I would get.. :)

Q: I know a little bwBASIC and would like to write a 64 bit GUI oriented OS in 3 weeks using it, can you help?

I await humourous replies; (and flak of course... ;)
(Oh why oh why does this sh***y spell check facility not recognise HUMOUROUS AND RECOGNISE!!!)

Seriously though hello to all and I hope my sig pointers are enough credentials to be accepted here... :)

I am an amateur coder and can only do it in my own time so my knowledge is limited compared to you guys on here.
However I rarely ask for help and usually sort out HW/SW problems for myself.
I will probably be "rigged for silent running" the vast majority of the time.

Thanks for any replies in advance.

Re: A thick newbe... ;o)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:05 pm
by JamesM
Hi,

I think you kind of answered your own question with your rather applicable self deprecation. You certainly tick all the boxes why I would not want to help you in the slightest - I'd enumerate them but as the likelihood is you're trolling I don't want to spend that much time.

The reason the spell checker "can't spell" "humourous" is because it's spelled "humorous", in both British and American English.

I find the pointing to MikeOS on your sig slightly worrying, as Mike frequents this forum, and is certainly not AKA "Bazza".

Sorry, but you lost me immediately with your "I'm an idiot but its alright to be an idiot if I point that out myself, right?! LOL!!11one" attitude and gratuitous smileys.

Cheers,

James

EDIT: Re-reading, sarcasm doesn't come across well over the interwebs. If your question was deliberately sarcastic and rhetorical, then welcome to the fold and ignore the above ;)


... if not, feel free to GTFO

Re: A thick newbe... ;o)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:38 pm
by Bazza
Hi James...

> ... if not, feel free to GTFO

Well thanks for that...

I think I will stay, as it is/was as expected.

As for Mike and MikeOS I put his URL into my sig as I am but a small part of his team.
(I did ask for his permission first of course.)

Anyhow I hope I am welcome.

Re: A thick newbe... ;o)

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:36 pm
by roboman
Hummmm, this wasn't posted on apr 1. bwbasic is an interpreter. An interpreted language is in most cases started from an existing os and then runs a program it loads. So your 'os' would require linux (or another unix) to be loaded, then you would run bwbasic and then your 'os' would run on top of that. For the most part people would call that a graphic user interface or at most a shell. Using Linux as a 3rd stage boot loader and bwbasic as a 4th stage boot loader would be streaching things in most peoples minds and with bwbasic being an interpreter you are very likely using linux and bwbasic resources to run your 'os', making it not an os in most peoples minds. To make an os that will be taken as an os by most people, you need to write it in a language that most will write a program that doesn't need another os to boot it. That excludes all the interpreted languages that are coming to mind and also excludes the majority of basics (not all).

Good luck with your shell/os/gui user interface

Re: A thick newbe... ;o)

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:11 am
by Bazza
Hi roboman...

> Hummmm, this wasn't posted on apr 1.

:-)

Serious head on...

I was browsing through the forum archives and noticed this:-

http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23310

Nice.

Which got me to thinking; I wonder if the USB Arduino Diecimila board might work through that Python 2.5.x port inside SeaOS.
(Don`t worry about the fact that the Arduino Diecimila Board is USB.)

MikeOS already has Arduino Diecimila access facility. :)

So I will ask a proper question here...

All of you who have a working OS must have a serial device of some sort too.
It doesn`t matter if your OS is capable of USB-Serial or purely USB so long as it can have a Serial, (probably via USB), facility.

MikeOS has the SER "device" using RS232 and although it is NOT USB it is talking to USB Arduino Diecimila Board... ;)
(Note the wink.)

The question is...
Before I attempt getting this board to talk to your OS and also saving me stacks of time of dl-ing your OSes to find out, what is your
serial port device name that "in theory" could be accessed through Python?

e.g. /dev/ttyUSB0, COM7:, SER: etc etc...

All replies would be appreciated as I will probably attempt Arduino Diecimila and below access, using your OS, if you have this facility,
which no doubt your OS has.

TIA...