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Ok so from what ive heard,

Someone gets the kill switch, (unless he already has it)

and we have to upgrade all of our networking equipment.


Is this true, or is our equipment (ipv 4) compatable with it.

I guess upgrading because of new IP addressing and our old system is running out of free addresses for new people to use?

Networking hardware itself is "compatible", it doesn't care is it used to transport TCP/IP or DECnet stuff or something totally unrelated. Every operating system which you care about most likely has supported IPv6 for like 10 years. You may have to switch equipment which sits between your home and your ISP.

http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/

Top Gear Top Tip: Upgrade to IPv6 now (or go through a tunnel broker like SiXXS or Hurricane Electric), then you don't have to worry about it at all.

IPv4 won't stop working, it will simply stop being able to do 100% of the Internet, as the Internet grows beyond IPv4's capability. So to access the entire 'net, you'll need IPv6.

Rant: I don't understand it really. Even Microsoft, who don't even bundle an SSH client (or even a decent terminal program) into their OS, manage to support IPv6 since Windows XP. And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

fronty wrote:You may have to switch equipment which sits between your home and your ISP.

Thats what i meant.

JackScott wrote: And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

I cant use 64 bit on my computer, because my netgear adapter, doesnt have a 64 bit driver out.

GhostXoPCorp wrote:

JackScott wrote: And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

I cant use 64 bit on my computer, because my netgear adapter, doesnt have a 64 bit driver out.

And since when is THAT related?

32-bit Windows can do IPv6, you don't need 64-bit windows for that (or 64-bit linux/bsd/whatever)...

GhostXoPCorp wrote:

fronty wrote:You may have to switch equipment which sits between your home and your ISP.

Thats what i meant.

Switches don't need to be IPv6 aware, they're oblivious of high level protocols like IP entirely, routers need to be aware at least to distribute addresses to your network segment.

GhostXoPCorp wrote:

JackScott wrote: And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

I cant use 64 bit on my computer, because my netgear adapter, doesnt have a 64 bit driver out.

IPv6 addresses are 128-bits in size, yet there is an IPv6 stack for an 8-bit OS running on a 8-bit microcontroller.

Your ignorance is showing, tuck it in.

Combuster wrote:And since when is THAT related?

Im simply ranting, and you simply have nothing to do but rant about my rants.

And yes, That was to you combuster. Find something better to do then pick on me


I would use windows 7 ultimate 64 bit, but netgear hasnt made a 64 bit driver for it. A little bit more simple for you to understand?

GhostXoPCorp wrote:

JackScott wrote: And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

I cant use 64 bit on my computer, because my netgear adapter, doesnt have a 64 bit driver out.

So:

1. Replace that netgear adapter with one that does have a 64-bit driver
2. Replace your router with one that does have IPv6 support.

The fact that the company that makes most of the routers in the internet still doesn't bother to add support for it - which is usually a compile-time toggle and no more - to its consumer routers is just shameful. I don't know how big Netgear is so I can't say whether it's weird that they don't have a network driver out. I do know that I have no-brand network cards and that most/all of them have 64-bit drivers.

Well it surprised me, but i went to look up and see if my adapter had a 64 bit downloadable driver, i came to forums of people who had the same problem, just to find out, no hope at the end of the tunnel.

2: I guess that shouldnt be so much of a problem, is it a NEED tho? Can i just continue using it?

And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

Market segmentation. Average consumer doesn't care about IPv6, therefore Linksys devices don't care about it.

Well, when the IPv4 address space gets exhausted, I'll just sue them (Linksys) for neglect of duty of care. They knew this would happen, but took no steps to prevent it.

JackScott wrote:Well, when the IPv4 address space gets exhausted, I'll just sue them (Linksys) for neglect of duty of care. They knew this would happen, but took no steps to prevent it.

You won't have a case. How about, stop buying Linksys and spread the word? Buy decent routers (dd-wrt?) and use them instead?

berkus wrote:

Candy wrote:How about, stop buying Linksys and spread the word? Buy decent routers (dd-wrt?) and use them instead?

Isn't dd-wrt just a firmware? (that runs fine on my linksys, btw). Stop buying D-Link crap instead

dd-wrt is an open firmware, yep. The main argument is - stop giving money to people that sell you 90% of a solution and make it impossible to do the other 10%. So, don't pay for a wireless router that'll route everything but not do ipv6 and don't pay for a network card that'll not do 64-bit (if that's something you want to do).

I recently got a new one because the old one (yes, a D-link - and it's crap) didn't do what I wanted it to do. The new one both does 90% out of the box and is replaceable by new firmware, which can do the other 10%.

You could always, you know, write your own driver for it? [talking specifically about the missing 64 bit device driver]

In most cases it's nothing more than correcting 32 bit variables to 64 bit ones by zero-extension and using 64 bit opcodes.

Obviously I wouldn't usually suggest this but on a forum for people who aspire to writing kernels and even entire OSes... if you can't write a device driver you're doomed.

Combuster wrote:

GhostXoPCorp wrote:

JackScott wrote: And yet most home networking equipment fails miserably. Linksys, which as we all know is "made by Cisco" still doesn't support IPv6. I'm just like, WTF?!

I cant use 64 bit on my computer, because my netgear adapter, doesnt have a 64 bit driver out.

And since when is THAT related?

32-bit Windows can do IPv6, you don't need 64-bit windows for that (or 64-bit linux/bsd/whatever)...

Maybe he can't use 64-bit because the driver did not work on 64-bit OS. Like Flash for example.