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I was going to go see if anything was happening with SkyOS at www.skyos.org

The site is gone. Is the project completely dead now?

It is impossible for an upcoming project now to get anywhere without open source community support. Beautiful project, but it really is impossible to get anywhere in a kernel dev project without far reaching help from all over the world.

--Sorry to see this
aeritharcanum.

Hi,

kubeos wrote:I was going to go see if anything was happening with SkyOS at http://www.skyos.org

The site is gone. Is the project completely dead now?

Last I heard was "SkyOS is not dead"; and the http://www.skyos.at/ web site is still works fine.

On the SkyOS forums, on the 11th of March 2010 Robert Szeleney said "Please use http://www.skyos.at instead. Not sure if we can restore skyos.org at all. (Can't get in touch with the guy who has skyos.org registered, and obvisouly he let the domain expire this time).".


Cheers,

Brendan

Oh okay, I was unaware of the www.skyos.at site. I would still love to try out his OS one day so hopefully something starts happening again with the project.

Development halted however.

Trying to keep up with todays desktop is imposable for a small team. It will be much easier in about 5-10 years.

Why i hear you ask, because once most of our programs run in a browser, the hobby OS team needs only to make a bootable browser (still very hard), you may say what about the drivers to all the graphics and sound etc.

But think abut it, there will be little point in having lots of different hardware (so there will be more standards).
The OS will be less important.

Dex wrote:Trying to keep up with today's desktop is imposable for a small team. It will be much easier in about 5-10 years.

And why is that, exactly? (If it's something about single tasking, forget that I asked)

Hi,

NickJohnson wrote:

Dex wrote:Trying to keep up with today's desktop is imposable for a small team. It will be much easier in about 5-10 years.

And why is that, exactly? (If it's something about single tasking, forget that I asked)

Probably because the "bootable browsers" won't need networking, won't need file systems (even to cache data from the web), won't need to support multiple browser windows, and won't need a scheduler to share the CPU between those multiple browser windows and other things. Portable stuff like Java will magically convert itself into native code without any form of compiling; and nobody will ever need to write these "bootable browsers" or update them when things change (the code running on the client will auto-magically appear), so no programmers will need any tools to create any actual code or the ability to run that code outside of an existing browser's window. Also, there won't be any (HTTP, etc) servers or any DNS or any of that, and the servers won't need load balancing or fault tolerance (something that doesn't exist can't become overloaded and can't fail).

Basically, the only thing anyone will ever need is one browser window, some pixie dust to feed the magic elves, the faith that the elves won't die or leak any of your sensitive information, and high bandwidth infiniband network connections that cost more per week (on average) than most people earn each year.

Of course in the real world lots of variations on the "simple clients" idea has been regurgitated repeatedly (by different companies with different marketing, different protocols, etc) dating all the way back to almost the beginning of computers. It made some sense back in the 1950's and 1960's when hardware was extremely expensive, but since then (excluding a few rare cases, like small offices running Citrix where the IT department like the idea and nobody can figure out why normal employees keep leaving) it's never been successful; and the latest "cloud computing" marketing crap won't change that.


Cheers,

Brendan

I pointed out in my post why it will be easier (not easy), because the OS will be less important.
So there will be less need for this spec hardware over another, it will then become much more important to have standards.
Like in the old day when SB cards where the standard sound spec.

NickJohnson wrote:

Dex wrote:Trying to keep up with today's desktop is imposable for a small team. It will be much easier in about 5-10 years.

Why i hear you ask, ...

And why is that, exactly? (If it's something about single tasking, forget that I asked)

Fail.