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Owen wrote:JZ and JE are actually the same opcode

Lithorien wrote:Also as an interesting note, assembly programming is really fun. I never thought I'd say that, but after working with it, I can't help but enjoy it.

Also as an interesting note, assembly programming is really fun. I never thought I'd say that, but after working with it, I can't help but enjoy it.

Solar wrote:It didn't happen to myself, and it does not involve a cat, but it was a well-known legend in the Amiga community...

Back in the 80'ies, when engineering genius Jay Miner designed the chips and board layouts for the very first Amiga, he showed each design to his dog, Mitchie. When Mitchie didn't like it, Jay reworked it. (At least, that is how Dave Needle tells it, who shared an office with Jay Miner.)

Whether that's really true or not, it's a fact that, when all the engineers gave their signatures to be put on the inside of every Amiga 1000 case, a paw print of Mitchie the dog was among them.

DednDave wrote:

Also as an interesting note, assembly programming is really fun. I never thought I'd say that, but after working with it, I can't help but enjoy it.

...the sign of a true geek

i would like to play with a machine that has 24 cores, just so i can diddle the affinity bits
i would have to say that i am a geek, too

Lithorien wrote:And letting the dog put his paw print with all the engineers - well, sometimes all that holds a project together are the small morale boosters.

Solar wrote:

Lithorien wrote:And letting the dog put his paw print with all the engineers - well, sometimes all that holds a project together are the small morale boosters.

In the pre-Commodore times (1982-1985), Miner led Amiga Inc. with a style I could only wish companies would emulate today. He believed in the talent of every man he hired, and excused virtually every quirk they might have.

One walked the office in fluffy slippers (D. Needle). One (D. Luck) missed his first interview because he overdid it at a company party at Hewlett Packard the day before - but was re-invited and, ultimately, hired, because he was the right man. He also tended to enter the compile command, followed by a "beep" command, and took a quick nap on a pillow he brought for the purpose, until the "beep" came up. (Hence his nickname "Jo Pillow".) One (C. Sassenrath) was hired as OS engineer, and was basically told he could do it any way he liked, as long as he got it working, so he wrote a preemptive multitasking OS...

What Miner got in return was a close-knit team with high morale and loyality. They worked long hours, slept under their desks to save the time the trip home would take, and "showered" in the hand washbasin, using paper towels to get dry. That project was their baby, and everybody cared for it as best he could.

If you think you have to supervise your employees closely, you've hired the wrong team, or you're working on the wrong project.

Lithorien wrote:

DednDave wrote:

Also as an interesting note, assembly programming is really fun. I never thought I'd say that, but after working with it, I can't help but enjoy it.

...the sign of a true geek

i would like to play with a machine that has 24 cores, just so i can diddle the affinity bits
i would have to say that i am a geek, too

I doubt it's the sign of a true geek. I just love how much minute control over the machine you get that you really can't get in any other language. I can do anything with assembly, which is even more than C can say!

uint8_t *ops={0x90,0xC3}
void (*func)();
int main()
  func=ops;
  func(); //executes NOP, RET
}

earlz wrote:C can execute any opcode..

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uint8_t *ops={0x90,0xC3}
void (*func)();
int main()
  func=ops;
  func(); //executes NOP, RET
}

earlz wrote:Also, this is a really good reference http://www.ousob.com/ng/iapx86/