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Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:33 am
by 01000101
Solar wrote:seeing how any vote not "Obama" would effectively mean "McCain" no matter whom you vote for. (Hooray for a two-party political system...
)
the others had their chance. I'm just glad that Hillary didn't progress into the primaries.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:40 am
by Solar
Alboin wrote:Isn't this why our glorious American fathers tried to avoid having political parties to begin with? "Vote democrat! Vote republican!"
My God man, simply vote for the
individual who is best suited for the job.
Is that what they intended? That'd explain why so much political power is in the hands of a single man... (Bad Thing (tm))
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:42 pm
by lollynoob
Neither major candidate is acceptable; If someone like Ron Paul were running, that would definitely be my pick.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:04 pm
by cr2
The heat is on!
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:06 pm
by 01000101
I decided not to vote (I'm registered though) due to the lack of an acceptable candidate. I believe each have their strong points, but neither make up a 'leader'. I would have ended up voting against who I thought would be the lesser instead of voting in favor of either.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:10 pm
by bewing
I think you guys are silly for allowing the two "major" parties to brainwash you into voting for only one or the other.
Solar wrote:
That'd explain why so much political power is in the hands of a single man... (Bad Thing (tm))
The US president doesn't have nearly as much political power as most people (esp. outside the US) seem to think. The Prez is in charge of foreign policy (all by himself -- to present a "coherent" policy), and that's pretty much it. Congress controls all the rest, with only nitpicking from the other two branches.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:59 pm
by 01000101
Exactly.
Anyone having done even an hour's research on the US power distribution would know that the president is mostly a face with some decision abilities. The other two branches besides the executive would be the legislative (Senate/House of Representatives) and judicial (Supreme Court) and that is where the real decision making takes place. The president is used mainly as a control to extreme bills and such.
Think about it, the whole point of the power separation was to break away from the tradition of a British monarchy (a single leader with way to much power).
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:21 pm
by Troy Martin
If I were American, I'd vote Obama. I agree that the US doesn't need another white haired idiot president in office after the last 8 years.
But I'm Canadian and not legally old enough to vote.
I've got MSNBC open and I'm checking on the projections every once in a while. Currently at: 207/135, Obama winning!
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:32 pm
by 01000101
I'm all for change, but his change brings high-taxation and a lot of gaps in his projected plans on where to spend it all... actually, he'd have to raise taxes anyways just to make back what he spent on the election in the first place.
I would have voted McCain just to not have to see Obama 'change' this nation into a worse economic status than it already is.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:42 pm
by piranha
But McCain has openly said that economics isn't his string point. So why vote for him, when we need the economy to be fixed?
And don't forget that Obama said that he wont raise taxes on, what, 95% of Americans. Only the rich people have to pay.
That being said, I dont know if he'll follow through on his word...
-JL
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:04 pm
by Alboin
Obama won.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:16 pm
by 01000101
Good for him.
It takes a lot of hard work to become president, even more for himself though.
Even though it's not my first choice, I'm still just happy Hillary didn't make it.
[edit]btw, the electoral college needs to die. It is is not necessary anymore and obviously does not sync with the actual voters. Pure votes would suffice.[/edit]
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:49 pm
by cr2
I'd put good money on a GOP takeover in 2010, though.
Re: 2008 United States election
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:16 pm
by Troy Martin
Congratz to Obama, thank god Palin won't get the nuke keys.
*shakes hands with everyone*