Debugging binutils under my OS?

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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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I just checked it seems to use %d and %lu when reading libgcc.a (sorry not %08x my memory is failing)
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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OK, now my libc passes your tests. "ld" does not call fprintf() (i checked). It still produces the broken binary. Inspecting undex linux, I can see that the first few bytes (the ELF header and perhaps a few more bytes) are the same in both the correct and broken binary. The rest of the broken binary seems to be random bytes, then a lot of zeroes, then the strings at the end. But in the working binary, there are a lot of zeroes at the end, and the strings come before them.

Looking at "readelf -s ld" (ran under linux, on the glidix linker) I get:

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Symbol table '.dynsym' contains 95 entries:
   Num:    Value          Size Type    Bind   Vis      Ndx Name
     0: 0000000000000000     0 NOTYPE  LOCAL  DEFAULT  UND 
     1: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND putchar
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    77: 00000000007f7cd8     0 NOTYPE  GLOBAL DEFAULT   19 _end
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    84: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND strspn
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    88: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND strchr
    89: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND fputs
    90: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND fcntl
    91: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND close
    92: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND vfprintf
    93: 0000000000000000     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND strpbrk
    94: 0000000000401ca0     0 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT  UND free
And I see nothing else that could affect the file size. (yes, I see the vfprintf() call, but no debug messages show upon calls to it, so it is not called in my test case).

Any ideas on what else could be wrong?

And is there a way to trace which library calls my cross-compiling ld uses under Linux, so that I could compare?
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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mariuszp, have you tried running objdump on your OS ?

I think I compiled some object files with my cross-compiler and copied them to my OS machine. Then I checked whether objdump could read them on my OS. Objump is a simpler program and if you get it working first at least you know your binutils can read obj files correctly.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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gerryg400 wrote:mariuszp, have you tried running objdump on your OS ?

I think I compiled some object files with my cross-compiler and copied them to my OS machine. Then I checked whether objdump could read them on my OS. Objump is a simpler program and if you get it working first at least you know your binutils can read obj files correctly.
Well, indeed objdump shows the correct disassembly of the object file. So it looks like it can read it. The only problem is the broken printf() which I finally got to fixing, so we'll see if there are any anomalies after it works.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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mariuszp wrote:Well, indeed objdump shows the correct disassembly of the object file. So it looks like it can read it. The only problem is the broken printf() which I finally got to fixing, so we'll see if there are any anomalies after it works.
That's great news. It's getting close. :)

Try objdump on some .a files as well. They have slightly different code paths.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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gerryg400 wrote:That's great news. It's getting close. :)

Try objdump on some .a files as well. They have slightly different code paths.
OK now "objdump -d hello.o" shows the correct disassembly, but strangely, upon getting to the almost-end of the code, it receives a SIGSEGV (inside of my OS, not linux).

The relevant snippet (linux):

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  2e:	64                   	fs
  2f:	0a                   	.byte 0xa
And in glidix:

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  2e: Invalid memory access
I'm wondering if this even has anything to do with the ld problem.

But clearly there is some kind of libc problem that causes this.

EDIT: Furthermore, "ld" only writes to "hello", it never reads back what it has written. And since Glidix writes the requested data to the positions that ld has indeed seeked to using fseek(), it must either be misreading the hello.o file for some weird reason, or incorrectly writing structures to the executeable. I don't know why the structure definitions would be incorrect though, but "as" likewise produces strangely small and corrupt output. Perhaps it is some type definition in <sys/types.h> that is incorrect?
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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OH MY GOD
Is fseek() supposed to allow seeking past the end of the file?
E.g. a file is 100 bytes long but you seek to 300 and you write and the file is automatyically expanded?

Because uh:

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{fseek 528:0 in 5}
{fwrite 104+216 -> 5}
That looks like it actually tried writing to 528 but failed to do so.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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mariuszp wrote:Is fseek() supposed to allow seeking past the end of the file?
This document says yes:
The fseek() function shall allow the file-position indicator to be set beyond the end of existing data in the file. If data is later written at this point, subsequent reads of data in the gap shall return bytes with the value 0 until data is actually written into the gap.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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Well, I have just fixed this subtle lseek() bug and suddenly, I can both assemble the code, and link it to create a working executable.
For some reason, "objdump" still receives the SIGSEGV though.
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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mariuszp, not just fseek() but also lseek().
The lseek() function shall allow the file offset to be set beyond the end of the existing data in the file. If data is later written at this point, subsequent reads of data in the gap shall return bytes with the value 0 until data is actually written into the gap.
and
Although lseek() may position the file offset beyond the end of the file, this function does not itself extend the size of the file. While the only function in POSIX.1-2008 that may directly extend the size of the file is write(), truncate(), and ftruncate(), several functions originally derived from the ISO C standard, such as fwrite(), fprintf(), and so on, may do so (by causing calls on write()).
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Re: Debugging binutils under my OS?

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mariuszp wrote:Well, I have just fixed this subtle lseek() bug and suddenly, I can both assemble the code, and link it to create a working executable.
For some reason, "objdump" still receives the SIGSEGV though.
Well done!
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