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[DavidCooper]

I've noticed an improvement in his style recently - he's actually asking clear questions, and that's a step in the right direction. I suppose the downside of that is that people are then taking more time to read on rather than just closing the tab half way through the first post like they used to. I wouldn't have bothered reading this thread at all if I hadn't been attracted in by the names of some of the big players replying on it.

[bubach]

Well, thank god you're not a moderator anymore then. Since you obviously fail to follow (imo) one of the most important rules yourself - #7. Some ignorance in the general ramblings forum isn't a big deal, telling people to STFU and GTFO is.

[Combuster]

If I were still a mod I would be able to do my work in silence and this whole mess would not have been necessary at all.

[Solar]

Any other OS...

That statement is just a little too sweeping (or else demonstrates a poor understanding - take your pick).

When making short statements, one invariably tends to oversimplify things. We're also talking about "Windows vs. Linux", and leave out not only *BSD but Apple as well as smartphone OS's. We're talking about CPU market shares when talking about the dominance of the x86/x64, when embedded CPUs far eclipse anything desktop-related.

The gist of my statement holds true, though.

[invalid]

If I were still a mod I would be able to do my work in silence and this whole mess would not have been necessary at all.

Well, thank god you're not a moderator anymore then.

[bifferos]

Any other OS is either 1) a poor second to Linux when it comes to running the GNU userspace, or 2) doesn't have a comparable userspace.

That statement is just a little too sweeping (or else demonstrates a poor understanding - take your pick).

I'd agree with you there. *BSD does a pretty good job of running GNU stuff. When you actually manage to install it on a box. The problem (for BSD) is nobody gives a damn what license their desktop machine software has. That only matters in the embedded world, however one small problem there:

- Where's the flash file system?
- Where's the Busybox equivalent? (Don't say 'Crunchgen', it's a very poor substitute)
- Where's the easy kernel configuration system?
- Kernel compression options
etc, etc...

Having hacked on both kernels to some degree (NetBSD and Linux), there is no question which I prefer. Sure, somebody trying to sell stuff prefers the *BSD license, but if you take that out of the equation there is no comparison, and the effort involved in making *BSD do what you want in the embedded world is usually far greater than the effort of making a clean separation between your application and the OS it runs on so you don't have to open-source both. The router market has shown that the Linux license, restricted though it might be, is perfectly adequate.

The world does not belong to Linux (thank goodness).

In the embedded world, yes it does. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the *BSDs succeeding, there are some very good people working on those projects, but they're a good 5 years behind Linux, and there's no reason for them to catch up ever.

(Also, many of us prefer the FreeBSD licence to GPL.)

As a coder or a user? Statistics would seem to show developers preferring the latter.

regards,
Biff.

[invalid]

If I were still a mod I would be able to do my work in silence and this whole mess would not have been necessary at all.

Well, thank god you're not a moderator anymore then.

Would suckers please just shut up? Thank you in advance.

Behave, troll.