POLL: Best way to deal with gang violence?

[pcmattman]

In our case, it's pretty much the same thing.

I think that's a very naive approach to things

Because since when is it illegal to be a part of a group of people with similar interests? Their actions are illegal, but that doesn't make it the same thing.

[Solar]

If family, community, education, society, and police do not suffice to keep gang violence from appearing, whose fault is that?

[purage]

Canadian laws are weak. Very liberal. For example, just a little while ago some Chinese man on a greyhound bus in Canada stabbed and killed a fellow passenger who was sitting next to him sleeping. The Chinese man then continued to hack away at the other man, decapitating him and consuming parts of the body. The other passengers fled from the bus as it quickly pulled over during the incident. At one point the suspect held the head of the victim in the air to show the on looking passengers. He fled through a window and was caught by police where he admitted his guilt and surrendered after a violent struggle. In his pockets were the tongue, the ear, and nose of the victim. The eyes were never found and were assumed to have been devoured by the suspect.

Guess what the Canadians did to the killer? He gets a one year sentence in a mental hospital where after a year he will be evaluated to see if he is fit to be released back into society.

Furthermore, they kill baby seals with bats and its legal! I would say that is some bass ackwards judicial decision making. Do you need links?

[Solar]

Guess what the Canadians did to the killer? He gets a one year sentence in a mental hospital where after a year he will be evaluated to see if he is fit to be released back into society.

Sources? I'd like to see that...

[Brynet-Inc]

Canadian laws are weak. Very liberal. For example, just a little while ago some Chinese man on a greyhound bus in Canada stabbed and killed a fellow passenger who was sitting next to him sleeping. The Chinese man then continued to hack away at the other man, decapitating him and consuming parts of the body. The other passengers fled from the bus as it quickly pulled over during the incident. At one point the suspect held the head of the victim in the air to show the on looking passengers. He fled through a window and was caught by police where he admitted his guilt and surrendered after a violent struggle. In his pockets were the tongue, the ear, and nose of the victim. The eyes were never found and were assumed to have been devoured by the suspect.

....

You forgot the best part of that story.. the guy actually claimed God told him to do it.

Canada doesn't have a habit of punishing the mentally ill, we simply lock them up... 2 or 3 years, and then see if they can design an OS.

Guess what the Canadians did to the killer? He gets a one year sentence in a mental hospital where after a year he will be evaluated to see if he is fit to be released back into society.

Furthermore, they kill baby seals with bats and its legal! I would say that is some bass ackwards judicial decision making. Do you need links?

Now seriously.

First of all, his sentence was indefinite.. he could very well spend the rest of his life in a hospital, the yearly review process is mandatory, also.. the reviewers will be fully aware of what he's done and wouldn't release him upon the public if they believed he was a serious threat. (..which I agree, he is.)

As for the seal thing, that's just ridiculous.. never heard of that.. sounds more like something an American would do.

[Brynet-Inc]

Very friendly of you

Hey, hey. Here on the border, the Canadian stereotype is is very popular. All Canadians are peaceful, albeit possibly drunk, hockey lovers. Not that it's at all true, mind you, but Canada just seems like such a peaceable place that, really, what problems could they have? It seems like a US without the 'International Police' sticker, or the slightly rebellious tint. (ie. Considering Canada just chilled with GB and all for so long.)

Do I appear to be a peaceful, well suited individual? I'm not even mild mannered.. I burp and fart regularly in public.

I do drink the occasionally alcoholic beverage, but surely my blood alcohol level is within legal limits.. for an hour or two.

I unlike my Canadian brethren I really hate Hockey.. every sport for that matter.

Don't believe in stereotypes.

[Troy Martin]

I unlike my Canadian brethren I really hate Hockey..

You suck.

Anyways, good points everyone Time to crack open some legal books and take over the justice system!

[Solar]

Best way to deal with gang violence:

• Fence in the whole area.
• Make every citizen in the area register with authorities.
• Everyone being of sufficient wealth, education, and mild-manneredness is allowed to leave. (With further options: Being correct skin color, religion, political conviction, of sufficient beauty etc.)
• Nuke & Rebuild.

</sarcasm>

[bewing]

I have to agree with Alboin on almost every point. And Troy, if you think your Canuck gangs are bad, you need to go live in East Los Angeles for about a year. Or maybe take a trip down to Honduras -- one of the places where we deport East LA gang members who are illigal immigrants.

The sad thing is that most people in this day and age do not understand Tactics. There is a foolish meme these days that considers military science to be "unclean". Which is why everyone is so ignorant that they don't even understand what we are doing in Iraq. You want to know what to do about the problem of gang violence? Read Clausewitz. Study up on defensive warfare or anti-terrorism for a couple years. (Some short term answers -- but note that some tactics conflict with others: you undermine their morale, make their "cause" less appealing to recruits by enhancing the alternatives, attack their financing and logistics, disorganize their C-cubed.)

Psych statistics conclude that 2% of all homo-sapiens (in ALL societies!) are sociopaths. So you really MUST begin by understanding that you cannot "fix" these people. But they become much less of a threat to others once they hit middle age. The entire function of a government is to protect and defend law-abiding citizens from non-law-abiding citizens and non-citizens. Therefore, the long term answer must be that the government must separate sociopaths from the law-abiders.

[Combuster]

(puts away fire extinguisher)

purage: quit trolling.

Troy Martin: use the report post button instead of feeding the troll.

[purage]

Actually, it isn't the governments job to police the nation, that is done at state level. Or in the OP's case, province.

[Solar]

And the state / province is led by...?

[pcmattman]

A governor (who has jurisdiction at the state level).

[Solar]

Who is merely the head of a state government.

[pcmattman]

I see what you were getting at now