What makes noobs pick OS dev?

[AndrewAPrice]

I don't this is very elitist at all. I don't know what the word is, but it's like the major players in an industry are usually the ones that entered in the dawn of that particular industry, profited from it and grown large, and then once that industry has been established it's much harder for smaller independents to join in.

I don't really see that happening here, since we don't really need money (just a little free time and some talent) to emerge and become well-know (within a certain community).

[rajika]

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Sometimes I wonder.

What makes some people, having a shaky understanding of general programming, next to no actual experience in C/C++, a complete ignorance of stuff like Makefiles or writing proper bug reports, and no netiquette to speak of, pick OS development as what appears to be their first significant software project?

I mean, what makes people who've had their first driving theory lesson think they could handle a rallye car?

Sure, you want to be among "the big ones", you want to win fame (and a fortune, perhaps). But don't you realize that greatness requires skill, which has to be earned through hard work and experience?

Trying yourself at OSDev, when you haven't written a single functional user-space application yet (and I don't mean "hello, please enter your name"), can only result in one thing: Dismal failure.

If you believe otherwise, you've watched too many casting shows. Paul Potts didn't just step on the stage and showed his great voice. He's had years of singing lessons. He was already a great singer when he enlisted for Britain's Got Talent, he didn't just "happened" to be one.

Hey, you - you who couldn't be bothered to actually read the manual, use google, or even read the sticky threads on this forum crying "READ ME!". What makes you think you could be anything else but the next Fail on this casting show?

</rant>

I thought I'd just vent this one here, unconnected to any actual thread or person.

And before anyone posts an "up yours!" - back when I started Pro-POS, I already had some experience in programming, and I did google, and I did read the manual, and I still failed dismally, because I was stupid enough to think I was up to the task. So, in a way, that rant above is also addressed at my younger self. Today I know I'm a pretty decent driver, but I wouldn't try the Pikes Peak...

When learning new thing everybody needs time. Depending on the brain capacity and the effort that people can put they will take the time to learn the new thing.

[Helu]

Hi
At the first beginning ,when I pick OS development,I really had the idea to become a great one.Haha,after all,I was a kid at that time.And it is really foolish in my today's opinion.However,no one was borning to do hard work.Actually,I benifted from yesterday's choice.
Now,I am also a green hand ,but the process of studying(including reading,asking ,testing and above all thinking !)have taught me how to learn new thing (many be complicated) in a clear way.In my daily studies and when I am doing general programming, I indeed can think more clear,adn work mor clever.Thank to os.dev and every one of distinguished you,from the bottom of my heart.
You see,I am trying to express my self in English,a foreign language to me as I am an chinese (no easy at all and sorry for my errors).But I think it pays,mabe be I cannt become "a big one" in OS developing even though I spend the rest of my life on it as a result of my lack of experience and knowledege ,but I believe I can become "a big one"in humanity because I want to kown more ,more more more,and want to become better than what I was yesterday.

[i586coder]

Hi guys and gals

This is my first time in this forum mentioned "gals", because maybe there is a noobs gals developing there own noob OS projects

personally, i don't hear anyone who talking about gals in OS programming

anyway, OS coding is one of the interesting topics in computer science ,you know there is a few
OS names in the market UNIX clone,MAC,WIN series,DOS clone,..., and may all of them less than 50 , so when i finished high-school i joined to computer college to learn how to coding OS,
but i discovered college can't teach you every things , since that i began with linux v0.01 source
code & later many linux distribution looking for source code & how linux implements drivers,..., etc
after 3 years, i wondered why i don't have my own OS ,since there is lots of resource over the internet related to OS coding and design, and of course the linux source code
this is the beginnings of my UNEXT/os flat 1.0a , no things specials in this OS, its
implement the basic of un-real operating system, with CLI, simple 320x200x256 gui ,with few
programs, but now i have version 8.1b of UNEXT/os this version is more powerful
than the previous one, it is 32 bit protected mode kernel,multi boot loader, 65% DOS support
has it's own applications .bx3 for VESA 800x600x256 GUI (e.g calender,calculator,...)

finally, i started my OS noob project just for learning the principles and basics of operating system,
but who's know UNEXT/os (aka you next operating system) become a global OS just like
windows,linux ,...

CheerS ,
a.T.d

[Walling]

Pure idealism. That's my reason to start OS deving as a noob, and I still am an OS dev noob in terms of knowledge. Idealism is what drives me. I would invent a new type of computer system if I was able to, but software is more accessible. OS deving seemed like a better starting point. I use more time on my compiler project at the moment, but I'm fine with that. Maybe, just maybe, I'll invent something, a new concept of some sort, that other people will want to implement in the major OS's. I'm hoping, but not planning for it. I know it's an unrealistic mindset wanting to change the world. I guess that's how the idealists brain works.

[01000101]

wanting to change the world is indeed an unrealistic goal, but it is not without merrit. I think it's better to have the goal to change the world than to accept it as being impossible and aim for something that impacts no-one.

[AndrewAPrice]

wanting to change the world is indeed an unrealistic goal, but it is not without merrit. I think it's better to have the goal to change the world than to accept it as being impossible and aim for something that impacts no-one.

What if you're genuinely uninterested in changing the world? Not because you think it's possible, but because it's not on your to-do list in life.

[JackScott]

Is there anything that you can do that doesn't impact at all on the world? Short of being a hermit and coding alone in a cave for the rest of your life, everything impacts in some way.

[AJ]

[ waits for someone to mention chaos theory ]

[Solar]

All dinosaurs are female.

[Wilkie]

Because nobody goes into OS dev whilst already a pro.

This is my first time in this forum mentioned "gals", because maybe there is a noobs gals developing there own noob OS projects

We have four girls on our team.

[purage]

I started OS development because I wanted to. No hidden agendas here. And, who cares if someone doesn't know the basics. Ignore the post. I would answer just because I would be shocked that there was a post I could actually answer. lol

[nekros]

I started OSDev because I wanted to rape bill gates with my "Amazing" OS.