Intel Manuals!

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:14 pm

finally, after waiting a very long time (8 months), I have finally recieved the hard-copys of the Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual (Volume3A + Volume3B). When i first asked, they told me they were out and to wait till the 1'st of the year, so I did and they finally sent them out =). I've very happy to see these two very important books in my collection.

Pyrofan1 · Post by **Pyrofan1** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:31 pm

tree killer

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:34 pm

damn, i totaly forgot to order...
well, i havent got much time atm anyway.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:41 pm

lmao. did you just call me a tree-killer. *kicks the hippie*.

If the manuals are already going to be made in mass quantities... i might as well enjoy it. =) I don't see you doing anything to stop mass production of books, so that makes you a tree killer too.

bloodhound23 · Post by **bloodhound23** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:02 pm

Did they send you an acknowledgment email to let you know they were sending them? I've been waiting for a month.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:05 pm

yes. If you have been waiting for months, you aren't going to get them lol. re-request them. send them an email again. thats what they told me to do when they were out of stock (before jan 1'st). When I re-requested them, they sent me confirmation of my order within the week and shipped them the next week after that.

bloodhound23 · Post by **bloodhound23** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:16 pm

I just reordered them. Did you order all of them or just a select few.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:02 pm

just the Software Developer's Manual Parts 1 & 2.

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:22 pm

In the Intel site they say that the pdf version of their manual can only be used for "personal use" only. So I guess non commercial use, for example for making an operating system and selling it. Is commanding the manuals gives rights to the informations in them, like for example making an operating system and selling it?

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:48 pm

jerryleecooper wrote:In the Intel site they say that the pdf version of their manual can only be used for "personal use" only. So I guess non commercial use, for example for making an operating system and selling it. Is commanding the manuals gives rights to the informations in them, like for example making an operating system and selling it?

That's obviously not what they meant...

Reading the manual and then using what you've learnt to develop something would be personal use.

Selling the manual... as "jerryleecoopers" guide to x86 would clearly be a violation.

Why did you even post such nonsense?

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:15 pm

if that was the case, NO ONE would be able to sell anything they ever learned from books lol.

AndrewAPrice · Post by **AndrewAPrice** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:14 am

Did you know buying fresh paper is good for the environment?

Paper companies own HUGE areas of land. The paper companies maintain this land, plant trees, make sure the area gets sufficient water, etc. If the demand for paper increases, they will buy more land and turn it into forest.

However, if the demand for paper decreases, the paper companies will have to sell of this unneeded land. In some areas (especially in desert areas where land is cheaper), these forests will be left unmaintained and die off. In other areas, the forests will be cut down and replaced by farmland.

As for the disposal of paper, it is a lot more biodegradable and friendlier for the environment than plastics, metals, synthetic fabrics, and other forms of garbage.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:31 am

yeah! what he said. =) ha.

AJ · Post by AJ » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:19 am

And the best way to protect the environment (other than making books, of course)? - build roads. Think of all that carbon it ties up that will not be released in to the atmosphere otherwise

Cheers,
Adam

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:51 am

Brynet-Inc wrote:Why did you even post such nonsense?

I was tired , I think. But Im sure I read on their site somethjing to the effect that the information on their site is for "personnal use" only, or something like this.
Ive just read the fine print of 3a and they say nothing about non commercial use. That wouldn't make sense, in effect.